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Offline SilverStarAngel

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« on: August 08, 2004, 05:55:03 PM »
I was watching a commercial for Adult Swim's newest cartoon, Venture Bros. I noticed it has some very graphic elements in it.

What upsets me about this is that anime like Inuyasha and Trigun (etc.) are put on at retarded times of the night, like midnight and beyond. They are much cleaner than some of the Adult Swim fare. Adult Swim cartoons contain worse themes than I've seen so far in Inuyasha, or even Trigun. Sometimes, the earlier shows have a whole bunch of sexual references and the like. Yet they refuse to show a little violence.

I'm tired of having to go to bed at 2 AM just to enjoy some of my favorite shows. I think this isn't sensible at all.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 03:43:07 AM »
Adult Swim is Evil....EVIL I TELL YOU! RAAAH!

They make good shows...less good. I screamed (For like...10 minutes, scared te hell outta my grandparents) when I found out about Fullmetal Alchemist. MUUUUUUU! Grr, Mow I'm all mad-like....But hey, at least they helped the anime industry...in mixed ways. Do they have a Mr. Yuck Emoticon? Just Imagine one right here. >.<
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2004, 09:23:33 PM »
i have to agree, thats just dumb. And they STILL edit out of Inu Yasha even though its on at such a late time! :x  GRAWR
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2004, 11:01:15 PM »
My (REALLY) big problem with Inuyasha wasn't the excessive cutting of scenes, but, the REALLY BAD dubb. They should TELL the friggen voice actors how to pronounce everyones stupid name already (especially Shippo!). But that's not Cartoon Network's fault, they didn't do the dubb. They just aired it.
I am still pissed about the choppidy chop of the scenes, so I stopped watching Toonami all together. Every once in a while I'll flip past and see what decent anime they're screwing up this season...and then I get mad...and watch Cold Case Files instead. WHEE! Dead people!
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2004, 11:17:11 PM »
i agree ( i said that again!)
The dubb really gets under my skin, expessially kagomes voice! *teeth grind* GRAWR Miroku's voice is alright though...

I havent watched toonami or anime on tv really (except wolfs rain haha) It just makes me nervous.  :-s  (i dunno why it just does)
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2004, 03:27:23 AM »
There's a certain paradox involved with Cartoon Network and its movement toward showing anime titles like Inuyasha, Cowboy Bebop, DBZ, and once upon a time, Outlaw Star, as well as other titles.

Anime is still not something whole-heartedly accepeted by society.  Granted, there are tens of thounsands of people who do by immerseing themselves by attending conventions and supporting capitalism by purchasing related products, we're still severely outnumbered.  Most people (adults and teenagers alike) will alienate anime as weird, strange, even childish.  This is mostly because they do not and do not desire to understand what it is.  And continued ignorance on culture is how people become segregated.

So, in a way, Cartoon Network is doing a big favor by allowing society (with cable, anyway), know and understand what this whole anime thing is about.  They don't have to like it, but at least they'll know what it is a little better.  Hey, maybe it'll even attract some more fans.

On the other side of the spectrum, we like being a cult.  We like being "unknown."  We don't want to integrate ourselves into society, because we feel like we can call anime something of our own.  Something that defines us, and not another.  Cartoon Network only attracts more and more general people, and sometimes unsavory ones, into this group.  Expanding the group.  Generalizing the group.  Diluting its potency, even.  We liked it way back when, when no one knew about anime.  It was an even stronger characteristic an individual.  And even on Cartoon Network, there is evidence of censorship and dubbing, which doesn't even give them the "real deal," so to speak.

So, Cartoon Network's promotion of anime is basically your everyday double-edged sword.  We want to become accepted, and yet, we want to stay private.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2004, 12:45:58 PM »
Quote from: ShikamaCHU
Adult Swim is Evil....EVIL I TELL YOU! RAAAH!

They make good shows...less good. I screamed (For like...10 minutes, scared te hell outta my grandparents) when I found out about Fullmetal Alchemist. MUUUUUUU! Grr, Mow I'm all mad-like....But hey, at least they helped the anime industry...in mixed ways. Do they have a Mr. Yuck Emoticon? Just Imagine one right here. >.<


HAHAHA!! Ah, that brings back memories. Waking up one morning, typing in animesuki.com... and not seeing any Fullmetal Alchemist anywhere. I believe It was back in June and I had some finals that day... I was almost late for my first one because I was reading through the downloadanime.org forums where people were expressing their deep remorse over Funimation licensing FMA... and I just wanted to cry.

But, I still download the show anyway. FMA has turned me into a true anime-stealer, because now I download everything, licensed or no. (But I still support the industry by buying good titles on DVD!)

And Adult Swim... is the devil. DUBS R BAD
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2004, 12:57:31 PM »
Craig just likes to say that he buys anime to support the industry, but really he is just a pirating bastard. Just yesterday he had to clean out his hard drive to make room for new anime because his extensive collection of it was taking up all the space.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2004, 01:01:21 PM »
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Craig just likes to say that he buys anime to support the industry, but really he is just a pirating bastard. Just yesterday he had to clean out his hard drive to make room for new anime because his extensive collection of it was taking up all the space.

"You're under arrest, please come with us."
"Is there a problem, officer?"
"You are being arrested for repeated downloading of liscensed anime."
*while being handcuffed and dragged outside*
"The Bible Black isn't mine! I swear to you it isn't mine!!!"


You need to... stop talking right now. I just bought Texhnolyze volume 2 the other day, and the NGE platinum volume 1, .hack//legend volume 2. I support the industry as much as I can.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2004, 01:05:06 PM »
Yes, he did just buy these things. But before that it had been awhile.

Also, this is my tenth post! I wonder if I will get a new forum title from this message... probably not. But we can hope...

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2004, 01:17:02 PM »
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Yes, he did just buy these things. But before that it had been awhile.

Also, this is my tenth post! I wonder if I will get a new forum title from this message... probably not. But we can hope...


Sorry, nope.

This has gotten off-topic... let's go back to bashing Cartoon Network's anime.

RAURGH ADULT SWIM SUCKS

Ok that's better.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2004, 01:53:47 PM »
FMA is going on Adult Swim right? I heard around this october  :?
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2004, 04:31:32 PM »
I know it was a few posts ago, but I just thought I'd congratulate Jethro on one of the better posts I've read in awhile reguarding anime. I completely agreed with everything that you said there. That's really all I wanted to say.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2004, 04:42:21 PM »
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I know it was a few posts ago, but I just thought I'd congratulate Jethro on one of the better posts I've read in awhile reguarding anime. I completely agreed with everything that you said there. That's really all I wanted to say.


Thanks.  I'm surprised I wrote so coherently at three in the morning...
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2004, 09:54:44 PM »
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FMA is going on Adult Swim right? I heard around this october  :?


Yeah... FMA is gonna be on adult swim in the fall...

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